-----Original Message-----
 From: S & J Hadjistamatiou-Verdoodt <sshv@hol.gr>
 To: info@compulink.gr <info@compulink.gr>
Date: Trith, 19 Ianoyarioy 1999 15:38
Subject: ...dia toy logoy toy alhues...
 

Kyrioi,

Ayto to mhnyma htan stis selides toy SITE :
http://www.periptero.com/ote/ote.htm
Alhueyei  ?
Ean oxi,  den prepei na to diaceysete ?
Pantvs einai gegonos oti kaneis ek tvn syndromhtvn
den enhmervuhke mexri tvra apo ton ISP/PROVIDER toy.
Mhpvs alhueyoyn ayta poy anaferontai sto episynaptomeno
keimeno ?
Pisteyoyme na dvsete kapoia apanthsh dioti thn dikaioyntai
oi syndromhtes sas h estv gia thn diastreblvsh poy isvs kai
kakvs egine.
 
 

QUOTE:
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Kyrioi,

Ua huela na dvste PROSOXH se ayta poy
grafv.
Apo toys  ISPs/PROVIDERSden exoyme kamia
symparastash.
Telikvs to mono poy petyxame mexri tvra htan na
ikanopoihuei to diko toys kai mono aithma - Dhl. Na
paroyn kai aytoi ariumoys klhsevn apo 095/-------.
Ayto toys ikanopoiei dioti etsi o OTE den ua mporei
na dvsei diaforetiko timologio xrevshs monados mono
stoys syndromhtes toy OTEnet kai etsi aytoi den kindyneyoyn
na xasoyn pelates toys pros thn OTEnet.
To na ginei fuhnoterh h monada den toys endiaferei kai
malista toys ejyphretei toys ISPs/PROVIDERS.
Makari gia toys ISPs/PROVIDERS na plhrvname thn
ethsia syndromh kai na mhn mpainame oyte mia fora
sto INTERNET, dioti oi ISPs/PROVIDERS plhrvnoyn
ston OTE analoga me thn xrhsh sto INTERNET poy kanoyn
oi syndromhtes toys.
Etsi oso ligotero kanoyme xrhsh toy INTERNET toso
kallitera gia toys ISPs/PROVIDERS.
Meta ola ayta fobamai oti oi ISPs/PROVIDERS exoyn
kanei metvpo me ton OTE enantion mas kai mas blepoyn
san probata.
...Kai o OTE  dinei thn entypvsh pros ta ejv oti ekane
ypoxvrhseis.
Telika thn diamartyria mas ayth den thn gnvrizoyn oloi
oi Ellhnes xrhstes  toy INTERNET.
Olh h prospaueia toy OTE kai vs apedeixuh  oi ISPs/
PROVIDERS  htan, einai kai ua einai na mhn to mauoyn
oloi  oi Ellhnes xrhstes toy INTERNET kai etsi ua exoyn
na antimetvpisoyn ayth thn orgh olvn mas.
Mporoysan oi ISPs/PROVIDERS se xrono mhden na eixan
enhmervsei toys syndromhtes toys me ena sxetiko e-mail
alla ap oti epedeixuh kanoyn thn papia gia toys logoys
poy anaferv pio epanv.
Den mas menei allos tropos ei mh mono na enhmervsoyme
emeis monoi mas osoys mporoyme Ellhnes xrhstes toy
INTERNET gia thn kinhsh mas ayth.
AISXOS ston OTE kai se oloys toys ISPs/PROVIDERS !

UNQUOTE:
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Lucy Taliadoros wrote:

> Kyrie Xatzhstamatioy
> H CompuLink, opvs kai o dikos sas provider ejalloy, apofasisan na feroyn sth
> home page tvn web servers toys
> mia anakoinvsh poy nomizv oti perigrafei poly kauara tis ueseis mas apenanti
> sth nea timologiakh politikh toy OTE kai oxi mono.
> Ayth h idia topouethsh exei dhmosieyuei kai ston Typo.
> Den katalabainv ti akribvs ennoeitai me to oti den enhmervuhkan oi
> syndromhtes mas. Ean uelete kante moy ayth thn dieykrinhsh
> kai ua sas apanthsv kai se ayto to shmeio.
> Pantvs den nomizv oti h etairia xreiazetai na kanei post th uesh ths kapoy
> otan, opvs sas eipa, h home page ths CompuLink, h bitrina ths etairias mas,
> ferei thn anakoinvsh me tis ueseis mas.
> Sth diauesh sas panta
>
> Gia thn CompuLink Network A.E.
>
> Loykia Taliadvroy
> Dieyuynsh
 
 
 

Kyria Taliadoyroy,

Kat’ arxhn ua huela eilikrina na sas eyxaristhsv gia thn
episynaptomenh apanthsh sas.
Sthn synexeia ua huela na sas plhroforhsv oti ayto to
opoio syzhteitai eyrevs metajy tvn xrhstvn toy INTERNET
sto SITE:
http://www.periptero.com/ote/ote.htm
einai to gegonos oti oi ISPs/PROVIDERS arnoyntai
na enhmervsoyn me CIRCULAR toys syndromhtes toys
gia thn kinhsh ayth tvn xrhstvn toy INTERNET poy
ginetai sto anaferomeno SITE.
Etsi oloi emeis oi xrhstes toy INTERNET poy eimaste
enhmervmenoi gia thn kinhsh poy ginetai sto en logv
SITE,  kanoyme agvna dromoy gia enhmervsh tvn ypoloipvn
xrhstvn.
Env,  ua htan poly aplo gia toys ISPs/PROVIDERS na kanoyn
ena CIRCULAR kai se xrono mhden na enhmervuoyn oloi
oi xrhstes toy INTERNET.
Egv prosvpika opvs kai oloi oi xrhstes toy INTERNET
pisteyoyme oti o agvnas poy kanoyme kata toy OTE einai
koinos enantia sthn nea timologiakh politikh toys.
Ej’ alloy emeis sthn prokhryjh mas zhtame metajy allvn kai
thn paroxh koinoy thlefvnikoy ariumoy gia toys ISPs/PROVIDERS
(opvs toy OTE to 095/555 555) gegonos to opoio apokleiei ton
auemito antagvnismo ths OTEnet kata tvn ypoloipvn ISPs
kai o opoios yparxei shmera.
Ayto poy zhtame emeis mono apo toys ISPs/PROVIDERS kai den
antapokrineste einai na enhmervsete toys syndromhtes sas
me ena sxetiko CIRCULAR gia thn kinhsh poy kanoyme sto
anaferomeno SITE dioti gia na kerdiuei o agvnas poy kanoyme
xreiazetai h symmetoxh olvn tvn xrhstvn toy INTERNET.
Den gnvrizoyme ean yparxei kapoios logos poy ayth h kinhsh
den exei ginei akomh apo pleyra sas.
Pantvs xvris kammia amfibolia ua einai eis baros kai tvn xrhstvn
kai tvn ISPs/PROVIDERS ean kapoia stigmh breuoyme se antiueta
stratopeda oi dyo mas.

Ean pisteyete oti prepei na yparjei apanthsh sthn epistolh
moy ayth ua xarv poly na thn diabasv.
Allvs ua apodeixuei oti ayta ola poy legontai gia apoxh tvn
ISPs/PROVIDERS apo ton agvna mas, alhueyoyn.

Me ektimhsh.
Stylianos S. Xatzhstamatioy
 
 

Lucy Taliadoros wrote:

> Kyrie Xatzhstamatioy,
>
> Ua me endiefere, estv plhroforiaka, na moy peite ti ua uelate na leei
> akribvs to circular poy, sthn oysia, den anaferete sthn anakoinvsh mas.
> Dvste mas thn gnvmh sas kai piuanvs na thn aspastoyme kai na proxvrhsoyme se
> kapoia kinhsh.
> Tvra vs pros to ean briskontai se antiueta metvpa oi xrhstes kai oi ISPs den
> nomizv oti yparxei pote periptvsh,
> aplvs prepei na katalabete oti eseis vs xrhstes, kai pelates kai toy OTE kai
> tvn IPSs alla kai vs atoma,
> exete thn dynatothtprepei na ekfrazeste kai na symperifereste diaforetika.
> Egv, vs CompuLink, ekprosvpv mia epixeirhsh kai vs ek toytoy, alloi kanones
> isxyoyn.
>
> Me ektimhsh
> Gia thn CompuLink Network A.E.
>
> Loykia Taliadvroy
> Dieyuynsh
 

Kyria Taliadvroy,

Eyxaristv gia thn episynaptomenh apanthsh sas.
Ayto poy zhtame kai pisteyoyme oti ua deijei thn
diauesh sas gia allhlobohueia ston koino agvna
mas gia thn anish metaxeirish toy OTE stoys
syndromhtes ths OTEnet kai tvn allvn ISPs
( aithma mas poy anaferetai sthn diamartyria mas
sthn dieyuynsh :
http://www.periptero.com/ote/ote.htm )
kauvs kai stis yperogkes  ayjhseis poy ejaggeluhkan
na isxysoyn apo 1.3.1999 einai na prosuesete thn ejhs
paragrafo, sthn koinh anakoinvsh poy kanate oi 12 ISPs
kai anaferetai sthn dieyuynsh :
http://www.forthnet.gr/announce/press/monopolio.html

« Dia ton logo ayto oi Ellhnes xrhstes toy INTERNET
exoyn anoijei selida paraponvn sthn dieyuynsh :
http://www.periptero.com/ote/otesucks.htm
opoy ekfrazoyn ta parapona toys gia thn anish
timologiakh metaxeirish toy OTE pros toys syndromhtes
ths OTEnet kauvs epishs kai gia tis nees ejaggelueises
timologiakes xrevseis poy ua efarmosei o OTE apo
1.3.1999. «

Epishs thn en logv anakoinvsh, afoy symperilabete
kai thn dikh mas paragrafo (poy anaferoyme anvterv)
na thn steilete (oi 12 ISPs/PROVIDER poy thn ypografetai)
stoys syndromhtes sas me CIRCULAR dioti sas diabebaiv
oti sthn megalh pleiochfia tvn syndromhtvn sas,  einai
agnvsth.

Me ektimhsh
Stylianos S. Xatzhstamatioy
Bolos.
 

Kyria Taliadvrh,

Sygnvmh,  mia dioruvsh sthn paragrafo poy
zhtame na prosuesete sthn anakoinvsh sas :

« Dia ton logo ayto oi Ellhnes xrhstes toy INTERNET
exoyn anoijei selida paraponvn sthn dieyuynsh :
http://www.periptero.com/ote/otesucks.htm
opoy ekfrazoyn ta parapona toys gia thn anish
timologiakh metaxeirish toy OTE pros toys syndromhtes
ths OTEnet kai tvn allvn ISPs/PROVIDERS kauvs epishs
kai gia tis nees ejaggelueises timologiakes xrevseis poy ua
efarmosei o OTE apo 1.3.1999. «

Eyxaristv
Stylianos S. Xatzhstamatioy
 

Kyria Taliadvroy,

Na eisue bebaih oti to,
« H sivph moy pros apanthsh sas,  sthn periptvsh ayth den isxyei ».
Toylaxiston gia logoys eygeneias,  gia na mhn pv oti eixate ypoxrevsh
stoys syndromhtes sas, na dvsete mia estv kai arnhtikh apanthsh.
H stash sas ayth sigoyra epibebaivnei tis diatypvueises parathrhseis
sthn selida mas,  orismenvn poy ejefrasan toioytoy eidoys amfibolies
gia thn mexri tvra stash tvn ISPs.
En toiayth periptvsei ua to syzhthsoyme kai emeis,  oi xrhstes toy
INTERNET,  metajy mas kai ua sas anakoinvsoyme thn apofash mas
gia thn peraiterv stash mas apenanti stoys ISPs.
Kleinontas ua huela na sas symboylecv na mhn ypotimate thn ajia
kai thn nohmosynh tvn xrhstvn toy INTERNET dioti vs epi to
pleiston den eimaste toylaxiston tyxaioi oson afora thn nohmosynh mas..

Me ektimhsh
Stylianos S. Xatzhstamatioy
Bolos.
 

Lucy Taliadoros wrote:

> Prosoxh giati exete adiko kai den moy aresei kai o tropos sas.
>
> LT
 
 

Kyria Taliadvroy,

Egv panta stis epistoles moy synhuizv na aitiologv ta
legomena moy kai toys xarakthrismoys moy.
Eseis omvs dystyxvs apo oti fainetai den to synhuizete.
Den peirazei,  ej’ alloy den einai kai ypoxrevtiko se ayto
to shmeio na symfvnhsoyme.
Grafete ....( Prosoxh giati exete adiko )....den mas ejhgeite omvs
to giati.
Kante mas thn xarh, giati isvs mesa apo thn ejhghsh sas ayth
katalaboyme to zhtoymeno.
Oso de gia thn epomenh frash sas ....( kai den moy aresei kai
o tropos sas ).... to jerv oti den sas eimai eyxaristos kai toyto
dioti h apanthsh sas sthn ervthsh moy ua ferei sto fvs thn
kekrimenh entexnvs alhueia ... kai h alhueia se ayth thn periptvsh
einai pikrh.
Telika den nomizete oti ofeilete na mas peite ena NAI h ena OXI ?
Thn filosofia ths oysias nomizv thn ejantlhsame olh.

En anamonh ths apanthsh sas.
Egv ejakoloyuv akomh......filika.
Stylianos S. Xatzhstamatioy
Bolos
 
 

Kyria Taliadvroy,

Den peirazei poy den apanthsate sthn teleytaia mas
epistolh....h eygeneia einai uema toy kau' enos kai oxi
oysias.
Pantvs na jerete kati, oti petyxoyme (emeis oi xrhstes
kai eseis oi ISPs ) mexri thn paramonh ths 1 Martioy 1999
...meta to poylaki petaje !
Posa xronia prospaueite gia to EPAK ?
Ti kataferate ?
Prospauhsame me thn allhlografia mas na symfvnhsoyme
oti o agvnas poy kanoyme kai emeis kai eseis einai koinos
alla apo ta legomena sas eseis den symfvnhsate.
As synexisoyme loipon o kaue enas gia logariasmo toy.
Eseis gia na apokthsete to EPAK kai emeis fuhnoterh
prosbash ston OTE me fuhnotera timologia.
Alla na eisue bebaioi oti etsi xvrista tipote den prokeitai
na petyxoyme.
To apotelesma ua einai na xasete oloys toys syndromhtes sas
sthn OTEnet apo 1.3.1999.
Den katalabainoyme giati oi syndromhtes sas na parameinoyn
se esas me akribotera timologia prosbashs apo oti sthn
OTEnet, ean eseis to katalabainete ayto,  paraklhshs na mas
to ejhghste gia na to katalaboyme kai emeis.

Eimai bebaios oti eipame ua to katalabete meta thn 1.3.1999
dioti ayto poy xreiazetai gia na to katalabete apo shmera,
einai ligh fantasia kai elaxisth logikh.
 

Filika.
Styl. S. Xatzhstamatioy - Bolos